Purchasing Advice

I don't really know anything about ICS, but I know G&G makes some beastly guns. I've got a G&G and the quality all around really shows. But again I really don't know anything about ICS.

G&G and ICS are the big name "high quality" gun manufacturers. ICS has the 2-piece gearbox design under their belt, whereas G&G has more recognition. I would personally recommend the G&G over the ICS just because I've seen more of the former than the latter.

If your not gonna upgrade the internals of the gearbox or change the spring get the G&G. The main beneift of the ICS is the ability to change out parts in either the gear set or the cylindar set with out effecting the other. If you are not planning on changing it G&G is better quality.

Thanks for the advice.I really don't want to upgrade the gun unless something breaks so i'll go with the G&G.

I have the G4 A5, its a really nice gun, the blow back is pretty cool, the fps is a little low though. The blowback action is neumatic to it takes some of the air that is propelling the bb to blow the bolt back, other than that it is a fantastic gun, great rail system. its also built off the G&G combat machine so you know you are getting a great gun right off the bat.

You mentioned the fps was a little low. How low does it shoot? Zach said his g4-a3 shot about 330 and his is preblowback. Im just trying to figure out a potential fps range

The new G4s shoot 380 ish. You can just ask GI to drop in a 400 FPS spring and they'll do it.

do you know right off hand how much extra that would cost?

I would not have GI upgrade it. FPS does not equal range. Just buy the gun and see how it shoots. Should shoot, like tyson said, around 380 which is plenty fast. If you then want more range focus on your hopup unit, bucking and barrel first if need be.

Thanks for the advice. The inner barrel is supposed to be a 6.03 tightbore and I have some madbull buckings that I bought before my AUG broke. Is there anything else I would need?

CaptKirby wrote:

I would not have GI upgrade it. FPS does not equal range. Just buy the gun and see how it shoots. Should shoot, like tyson said, around 380 which is plenty fast. If you then want more range focus on your hopup unit, bucking and barrel first if need be.

True. Wasn't really thinking when I mentioned the spring.

But yeah. See how it shoots. Upgrade if necessary. Otherwise, leave it alone.

MatthewTyson wrote:

But yeah. See how it shoots. Upgrade if necessary. Otherwise, leave it alone.

I think thats a good plan. I wasn't really planning to upgrade or open the gearbox unless it's necessary to fix something.

I ordered the G4-A3 DMR and some midcaps today.

yay, good for you, I hope you like it

Thanks I feel like I will. I believe I will have better luck with the G4-A3 than I did with the AUG reliability wise.